Comments on: Did Google give web designers their groove back? http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/ Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:10:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hescominsoon http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-280 Hescominsoon Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:10:31 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-280 Forums are far form dying. I can tell you that right now. Things just aren't concentrated into one ginormous forum and frankly i think that's better for all involved. the big thing about CMS systems...you don't have to pay somebody for site maintenance. Unless you have a ton of scratch this isn't economically feasible. Also Firefox is one of the slowest browsers around. IE nearly catches it now and both of them get waxed by Google chrome and opera. Firefox is running a 4 year old single-threaded architecture with no plans to change anytime soon. Firefox is on it's way out unfortunately. Unless Mozilla changes it tack quickly they are going to go away like Netscape. Forums are far form dying. I can tell you that right now. Things just aren’t concentrated into one ginormous forum and frankly i think that’s better for all involved.

the big thing about CMS systems…you don’t have to pay somebody for site maintenance. Unless you have a ton of scratch this isn’t economically feasible. Also Firefox is one of the slowest browsers around. IE nearly catches it now and both of them get waxed by Google chrome and opera. Firefox is running a 4 year old single-threaded architecture with no plans to change anytime soon. Firefox is on it’s way out unfortunately. Unless Mozilla changes it tack quickly they are going to go away like Netscape.

]]> By: ktaylor310 http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-248 ktaylor310 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:04:09 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-248 I agree structure-wise, but probably not intent-wise. You can definitely get a wider range of more specific help in a forum, but I think they are slowly dying. "Helpers" are busy promoting their own businesses via social media and don't have time to participate anymore. Short status updates are more attractive... sad. I believe only the most popular forums that have been around a long time will continue to grow - so probably not the best time to strike out in that direction. My 2 cents. :) AND LOL, updating now! I agree structure-wise, but probably not intent-wise. You can definitely get a wider range of more specific help in a forum, but I think they are slowly dying. “Helpers” are busy promoting their own businesses via social media and don’t have time to participate anymore. Short status updates are more attractive… sad. I believe only the most popular forums that have been around a long time will continue to grow – so probably not the best time to strike out in that direction. My 2 cents. :) AND LOL, updating now!

]]> By: fairdoes http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-247 fairdoes Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:39:44 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-247 p.s. WP 2.9.1 is waiting! p.s. WP 2.9.1 is waiting!

]]> By: fairdoes http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-246 fairdoes Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:39:00 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-246 i tested if FF, Opera and Google Chrome (all on Linux). essentials of SEO is my current favourite! I'm intrigued by tags, which blogger didn't support, and tempted to choose which to list on the template rather than letting the default widget list the most "common". I can't see any reason why a wordpress blog can't replace a forum, using the categories as sub-forums :) i tested if FF, Opera and Google Chrome (all on Linux). essentials of SEO is my current favourite!

I’m intrigued by tags, which blogger didn’t support, and tempted to choose which to list on the template rather than letting the default widget list the most “common”.

I can’t see any reason why a wordpress blog can’t replace a forum, using the categories as sub-forums :)

]]> By: ktaylor310 http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-245 ktaylor310 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:21:12 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-245 Hey there fairdoes! Great idea for a post. To answer your question quickly, though, whatever theme you choose make sure you test it in FF. I've seem MANY themes break in that browser. My favorite theme - the one I find most customizable and reliable is "Atahualpa". If you are still working on your forum, you should try the WP plugin "Simple Press". I've decided to abandon the forum for now, but the plugin had a lot of great options and tied right in with my blog. I use the back up tool within WP before upgrading or making any major changes (tools | export file). I also back up the whole database via my webhost (myPhpAdmin) from time-to-time. Best! Hey there fairdoes! Great idea for a post. To answer your question quickly, though, whatever theme you choose make sure you test it in FF. I’ve seem MANY themes break in that browser. My favorite theme – the one I find most customizable and reliable is “Atahualpa”. If you are still working on your forum, you should try the WP plugin “Simple Press”. I’ve decided to abandon the forum for now, but the plugin had a lot of great options and tied right in with my blog. I use the back up tool within WP before upgrading or making any major changes (tools | export file). I also back up the whole database via my webhost (myPhpAdmin) from time-to-time. Best!

]]> By: fairdoes http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-244 fairdoes Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:53:31 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-244 Hello Kim! As we've both recently changed to WordPress, how's about a post about that? My first theme was a lemon - site feed failed and every archive, tag and category duplicated the whole of every post. What are you doing about database backups? Hello Kim!

As we’ve both recently changed to WordPress, how’s about a post about that?

My first theme was a lemon – site feed failed and every archive, tag and category duplicated the whole of every post.

What are you doing about database backups?

]]> By: ktaylor310 http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-171 ktaylor310 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:19:48 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-171 No, I actually agree Karri. I think WordPress is awesome and I will definitely use it in the future for clients again and again. Sometimes a CMS solution only makes sense and I think WordPress is at the top. I just think that optimizing WP for page speed (at least for now) is over the heads of most "non-technical" people. I believe Google's new focus on page speed may help give web designers back some of the ground that CMS was seemingly taking away. In short, web designers are still valuable even in a CMS environment and, hopefully, more so in 2010. No, I actually agree Karri. I think WordPress is awesome and I will definitely use it in the future for clients again and again. Sometimes a CMS solution only makes sense and I think WordPress is at the top. I just think that optimizing WP for page speed (at least for now) is over the heads of most “non-technical” people. I believe Google’s new focus on page speed may help give web designers back some of the ground that CMS was seemingly taking away. In short, web designers are still valuable even in a CMS environment and, hopefully, more so in 2010.

]]> By: Karri Flatla http://kimiweb.com/blog/2009/11/did-google-give-web-designers-their-groove-back/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Karri Flatla Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:34:39 +0000 http://kimiweb.com/blog/?p=494#comment-169 Hey Kim, Great overview of a complex topic! It's interesting to see that SEO and usability are (slowly) integrating ... there's nothing worse than landing on what appears to be a great website only to get stuck in never-never-land waiting for a page to load. Now, that said, I am a heeyuge WordPress fan and I don't think WP is going anywhere at all. I suspect that it will evolve to meet the (increasingly complex) demands of users/marketers/developers ... e.g. there are already plugins to assist with caching. And eventually someone will come up with a way to help the browser caching issue (for static files like .css, etc.). Will the need for search-savvy web developers ever go away? Absolutely not. CMSs like WP are great to help biz owners on the "front end" maintain their content (and thus rankings/visibility/brand appeal/etc.), but a good developer keeps the back end -- and maybe even rankings -- rockin' and rolling :) Cheers, Karri Hey Kim,

Great overview of a complex topic! It’s interesting to see that SEO and usability are (slowly) integrating … there’s nothing worse than landing on what appears to be a great website only to get stuck in never-never-land waiting for a page to load.

Now, that said, I am a heeyuge WordPress fan and I don’t think WP is going anywhere at all. I suspect that it will evolve to meet the (increasingly complex) demands of users/marketers/developers … e.g. there are already plugins to assist with caching. And eventually someone will come up with a way to help the browser caching issue (for static files like .css, etc.).

Will the need for search-savvy web developers ever go away? Absolutely not. CMSs like WP are great to help biz owners on the “front end” maintain their content (and thus rankings/visibility/brand appeal/etc.), but a good developer keeps the back end — and maybe even rankings — rockin’ and rolling :)

Cheers,
Karri

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